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		<title>By: Carmen Hair</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2015 16:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2015 01:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Specifically episode VI, minutes 20-30.

Here is a similar &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1gvsiy/what_is_the_oldest_counterculture_movement_we/caoct2h#caoct2h&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;written account&lt;/a&gt;. A couple things not there that Carlin mentions: &quot;Clodius&quot; is the Sabbine pronunciation, maybe the low class pronunciation. Dancing.

Also, Carlin says that the counterculture interpretation was first put forward by Will Durant in the 40s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specifically episode VI, minutes 20-30.</p>
<p>Here is a similar <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1gvsiy/what_is_the_oldest_counterculture_movement_we/caoct2h#caoct2h" rel="nofollow">written account</a>. A couple things not there that Carlin mentions: &#8220;Clodius&#8221; is the Sabbine pronunciation, maybe the low class pronunciation. Dancing.</p>
<p>Also, Carlin says that the counterculture interpretation was first put forward by Will Durant in the 40s.</p>
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		<title>By: Max T.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2015 05:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are two considerations that haven&#039;t weren&#039;t in this post (and forgive me if someone else mentioned this in the comments).

1. The first is that certain characteristics are &quot;inherent&quot; in people, and have been bred into our psyche, perhaps even as early as our ape common ancestors. For example some idea of racism is found in all cultures. Our attempts to end racism run counter to our nature but perhaps increases or is neutral to our survival as a culture at this particular junction. Another example of something that is inherent and likely a function of biological evolution is the golden rule, which is pretty universal. In other words maybe a revulsion to homosexuality is inherent and getting a culture which finds this important enough to root out this predilection is just rare because of human nature. Personally I find this unlikely, or at least the idea that a revulsion to homosexuality is as &quot;biologically&quot; ingrained as morality or racism.

2. Perhaps a revulsion to homosexuality is an indication of something else related to cultural fitness. For example, going from your second point, perhaps societies that rigidly control how its people reproduce can out breed competing cultures, and one aspect of controlling reproduction might be to make sure there is no wastefulness. This also may or may not be outdated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two considerations that haven&#8217;t weren&#8217;t in this post (and forgive me if someone else mentioned this in the comments).</p>
<p>1. The first is that certain characteristics are &#8220;inherent&#8221; in people, and have been bred into our psyche, perhaps even as early as our ape common ancestors. For example some idea of racism is found in all cultures. Our attempts to end racism run counter to our nature but perhaps increases or is neutral to our survival as a culture at this particular junction. Another example of something that is inherent and likely a function of biological evolution is the golden rule, which is pretty universal. In other words maybe a revulsion to homosexuality is inherent and getting a culture which finds this important enough to root out this predilection is just rare because of human nature. Personally I find this unlikely, or at least the idea that a revulsion to homosexuality is as &#8220;biologically&#8221; ingrained as morality or racism.</p>
<p>2. Perhaps a revulsion to homosexuality is an indication of something else related to cultural fitness. For example, going from your second point, perhaps societies that rigidly control how its people reproduce can out breed competing cultures, and one aspect of controlling reproduction might be to make sure there is no wastefulness. This also may or may not be outdated.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas Knight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2015 22:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Mary were correct that Irish were ever barred from naturalization on grounds of not being white, it should be mentioned in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onellp.com/parts/pubs/Tehranian_Performing_Whiteness.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this paper&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jstor.org/stable/797505&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;alt&lt;/a&gt;), but it is not. &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jstor.org/stable/797472&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; sounds like a better source, but I have not looked at it.

However, Finns did sue for white naturalization in &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States#Finnish_Americans&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1908&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;https://books.google.com/books?id=JcJVNoE3BuUC&amp;pg=PA23&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;). 

The Italian miscegenation example is Rollins v Alabama. In her &lt;a href=&quot;https://books.google.com/books?id=olNMkg1_FeIC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;book&lt;/a&gt;, Gross suggests that it was nothing specific to Italy, but merely that place of origin is not evidence of race beyond a reasonable doubt. But she goes on to give a couple of examples of legal threats to Italian whiteness: a 1903 attempt to exclude Italians from the Democratic primaries and a 1911 House debate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mary were correct that Irish were ever barred from naturalization on grounds of not being white, it should be mentioned in <a href="http://www.onellp.com/parts/pubs/Tehranian_Performing_Whiteness.pdf" rel="nofollow">this paper</a> (<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/797505" rel="nofollow">alt</a>), but it is not. <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/797472" rel="nofollow">This</a> sounds like a better source, but I have not looked at it.</p>
<p>However, Finns did sue for white naturalization in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States#Finnish_Americans" rel="nofollow">1908</a> (<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=JcJVNoE3BuUC&amp;pg=PA23" rel="nofollow">source</a>). </p>
<p>The Italian miscegenation example is Rollins v Alabama. In her <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=olNMkg1_FeIC" rel="nofollow">book</a>, Gross suggests that it was nothing specific to Italy, but merely that place of origin is not evidence of race beyond a reasonable doubt. But she goes on to give a couple of examples of legal threats to Italian whiteness: a 1903 attempt to exclude Italians from the Democratic primaries and a 1911 House debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eggs and candy for fertility. But were they copied from a fertility festival, or did Christians recreate one?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eggs and candy for fertility. But were they copied from a fertility festival, or did Christians recreate one?</p>
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		<title>By: HlynkaCG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HlynkaCG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2015 14:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To quote Eddie Izzard, You got eggs for fertility, and chocolate for shagging.

Standard spring festival fair right there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Eddie Izzard, You got eggs for fertility, and chocolate for shagging.</p>
<p>Standard spring festival fair right there.</p>
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		<title>By: HlynkaCG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HlynkaCG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@HeelBearCub, assuming we are still talking about this in the context of marriage, isn&#039;t the specific purpose of &quot;traditional marriage&quot; blindingly obvious?

At the most basic level human children and pregnant women are not self sufficient. 

As such, a man is obligated to protect and provide for the mother and any child he fathers.

Likewise, Women are obligated to be monogamous so that men can have some assurance that any children he gets stuck raising are actually his.

Societies then developed various taboos, traditions, and institutions to ensure that the above obligations were met. AKA &quot;Marriage&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@HeelBearCub, assuming we are still talking about this in the context of marriage, isn&#8217;t the specific purpose of &#8220;traditional marriage&#8221; blindingly obvious?</p>
<p>At the most basic level human children and pregnant women are not self sufficient. </p>
<p>As such, a man is obligated to protect and provide for the mother and any child he fathers.</p>
<p>Likewise, Women are obligated to be monogamous so that men can have some assurance that any children he gets stuck raising are actually his.</p>
<p>Societies then developed various taboos, traditions, and institutions to ensure that the above obligations were met. AKA &#8220;Marriage&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: HlynkaCG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HlynkaCG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2015 12:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Primitivity and Violence were not variables in the original equation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Primitivity and Violence were not variables in the original equation.</p>
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		<title>By: HlynkaCG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HlynkaCG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2015 11:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and the major Collectivist cultures that rose up in response to industrialization at the turn of the 20th century were soundly beaten by those greedy Capitalists... ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the major Collectivist cultures that rose up in response to industrialization at the turn of the 20th century were soundly beaten by those greedy Capitalists&#8230; 😉</p>
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