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		<title>By: jaimeastorga2000</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 04:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;In conclusion, keep the same diet, but turn the thermostat down to 60 F and engage in self-harm.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Let us hope that this new cold cuts diet proves more effective than &lt;a href=&quot;http://lesswrong.com/lw/4sh/how_i_lost_100_pounds_using_tdt/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the timeless decision theory diet&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In conclusion, keep the same diet, but turn the thermostat down to 60 F and engage in self-harm.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let us hope that this new cold cuts diet proves more effective than <a href="http://lesswrong.com/lw/4sh/how_i_lost_100_pounds_using_tdt/" rel="nofollow">the timeless decision theory diet</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Alraune</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In conclusion, keep the same diet, but turn the thermostat down to 60 F and engage in self-harm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In conclusion, keep the same diet, but turn the thermostat down to 60 F and engage in self-harm.</p>
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		<title>By: jaimeastorga2000</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 02:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;your earlier statement (which I took to mean, &quot;eating less will never lead to weight loss&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh, no; that interpretation would be an exaggeration in the opposite direction. There are indeed people and circumstances in which eating less functions more or less like the thermodynamic theory of dieting predicts it should.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Conversely, if you are at the point where your body is (e.g.) already converting the extra calories into heat, reducing the amount of calories you eat won&#039;t result in weight loss.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There are more scenarios, I think, where reducing the amount of calories you eat will not result in weight loss. By analogy with the weight gain scenario, the two obvious ones are that your body, if feed less calories while already at its set point, will endeavor to absorb more calories from the food that you do eat, and/or will lower your body temperature in order to conserve energy. In the semi-starvation experiments which Mr. Taubes recounts in &lt;i&gt;Good Calories, Bad Calories&lt;/i&gt;, the test subjects persistently complained of being cold and unable to warm themselves even when wrapped in numerous layers of clothing.

Another possibility is that your body simply reduces bodily functions in an effort to save calories. Even if this does not stop you from exercising at the previous rate, you might find out that the only effects of your increased caloric deficit are that your brain is suddenly performing as if it had an IQ one standard deviation lower than the one you started with, or else that your rate of healing from sickness and injury has slowed down considerably, all while the fat deposits in your body stubbornly refuse to transform themselves into usable energy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>your earlier statement (which I took to mean, &#8220;eating less will never lead to weight loss&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, no; that interpretation would be an exaggeration in the opposite direction. There are indeed people and circumstances in which eating less functions more or less like the thermodynamic theory of dieting predicts it should.</p>
<blockquote><p>Conversely, if you are at the point where your body is (e.g.) already converting the extra calories into heat, reducing the amount of calories you eat won&#8217;t result in weight loss.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are more scenarios, I think, where reducing the amount of calories you eat will not result in weight loss. By analogy with the weight gain scenario, the two obvious ones are that your body, if feed less calories while already at its set point, will endeavor to absorb more calories from the food that you do eat, and/or will lower your body temperature in order to conserve energy. In the semi-starvation experiments which Mr. Taubes recounts in <i>Good Calories, Bad Calories</i>, the test subjects persistently complained of being cold and unable to warm themselves even when wrapped in numerous layers of clothing.</p>
<p>Another possibility is that your body simply reduces bodily functions in an effort to save calories. Even if this does not stop you from exercising at the previous rate, you might find out that the only effects of your increased caloric deficit are that your brain is suddenly performing as if it had an IQ one standard deviation lower than the one you started with, or else that your rate of healing from sickness and injury has slowed down considerably, all while the fat deposits in your body stubbornly refuse to transform themselves into usable energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Shenpen</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 08:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is something for fun: Malachy&#039;s Prophecy of the Popes says he will be the last pope, who will fuck up the church and world and all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

The fun part is that for religious conservatives, he really does sound like a disaster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is something for fun: Malachy&#8217;s Prophecy of the Popes says he will be the last pope, who will fuck up the church and world and all: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes</a></p>
<p>The fun part is that for religious conservatives, he really does sound like a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doctor Mist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2015 20:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Yeah, that’s why so many countries have emerged from war wealthier than when they went into it.&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry, I should have known better than try irony in print. Modern war is usually ruinous even for the victor. That&#039;s not to say some weren&#039;t started with the motive of profit, but nobody ever had to show a P&amp;L accounting for it. If they&#039;d had an actual board of directors, and stockholders, looking over their shoulders...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yeah, that’s why so many countries have emerged from war wealthier than when they went into it.</i></p>
<p>Sorry, I should have known better than try irony in print. Modern war is usually ruinous even for the victor. That&#8217;s not to say some weren&#8217;t started with the motive of profit, but nobody ever had to show a P&amp;L accounting for it. If they&#8217;d had an actual board of directors, and stockholders, looking over their shoulders&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JohannesD</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2015 13:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s also the &quot;Hide post (see fewer posts like this)&quot; option which sounds like it&#039;s used to teach the news feed algorithm. Whether it&#039;s smart enough to learn the concept of &quot;clickbait sites&quot; I don&#039;t know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the &#8220;Hide post (see fewer posts like this)&#8221; option which sounds like it&#8217;s used to teach the news feed algorithm. Whether it&#8217;s smart enough to learn the concept of &#8220;clickbait sites&#8221; I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Vamair</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2015 08:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All these objections are to the different versions of utilitarianism and at least one of them - the utility monster one - is only bad because of connotations of the word &quot;monster&quot;. If the monster is a galactic supercivilisation, and the other is a nonhuman animal, we&#039;re all too happy to sacrifice all its utility to the monster. Well, even if it&#039;s a human animal, actually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these objections are to the different versions of utilitarianism and at least one of them &#8211; the utility monster one &#8211; is only bad because of connotations of the word &#8220;monster&#8221;. If the monster is a galactic supercivilisation, and the other is a nonhuman animal, we&#8217;re all too happy to sacrifice all its utility to the monster. Well, even if it&#8217;s a human animal, actually.</p>
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		<title>By: creative username #1138</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2015 22:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t say that conservatives in general hated Laudato Si. Rod Dreher was a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/harmony-communion-incarnation-laudato-si-pope-francis/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;big fan.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that conservatives in general hated Laudato Si. Rod Dreher was a <a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/harmony-communion-incarnation-laudato-si-pope-francis/" rel="nofollow">big fan.</a></p>
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		<title>By: vV_Vv</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2015 21:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before becoming Pope Benedict XVI, Joseph Ratzinger was a theology professor and then the Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (aka the Inquisition).  
He was accustomed to elaborating a coherent doctrine (as far as a doctrine that includes stuff like the Trinity can be) from first principles and explaining it to his theology students or other bishops.  
Of course, as a Pope whose words reached billion people in the world, including many who have all the incentives to interpret them as uncharitably as possible, this method of communication worked very poorly.  
He said many things that people didn&#039;t want to hear, even if they logically followed from the Catholic doctrine. This made him quite unpopular, especially since the difference with his predecessor Pope John Paul II was striking.

Pope Francis is in many ways similar to John Paul II: a &quot;rockstar&quot; Pope who will say every time what people want to hear with a big heartening smile on his face.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before becoming Pope Benedict XVI, Joseph Ratzinger was a theology professor and then the Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (aka the Inquisition).<br />
He was accustomed to elaborating a coherent doctrine (as far as a doctrine that includes stuff like the Trinity can be) from first principles and explaining it to his theology students or other bishops.<br />
Of course, as a Pope whose words reached billion people in the world, including many who have all the incentives to interpret them as uncharitably as possible, this method of communication worked very poorly.<br />
He said many things that people didn&#8217;t want to hear, even if they logically followed from the Catholic doctrine. This made him quite unpopular, especially since the difference with his predecessor Pope John Paul II was striking.</p>
<p>Pope Francis is in many ways similar to John Paul II: a &#8220;rockstar&#8221; Pope who will say every time what people want to hear with a big heartening smile on his face.</p>
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		<title>By: cypher</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2015 22:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never been fond of their distaste for Transhumanism - but if you allow it, then you end up with something more like Eclipse Phase or Ghost in the Shell than Star Trek.

You wouldn&#039;t really be able to do the whole humanist themes thing if they&#039;re all even half as awesome as Lt. Data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been fond of their distaste for Transhumanism &#8211; but if you allow it, then you end up with something more like Eclipse Phase or Ghost in the Shell than Star Trek.</p>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t really be able to do the whole humanist themes thing if they&#8217;re all even half as awesome as Lt. Data.</p>
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