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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2015 11:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Disclaimer: I&#039;m not from the US. Neither do I get the finer points of your language (so maybe I&#039;m stating the obvious and you were joking) nor of your political debate (so maybe the reception of LGBT topics differs vastly from european &quot;standards&quot;). That being said:]

There is research to the effect that the word &quot;homosexual&quot; triggers the concept &quot;gay&quot; in people&#039;s mind as in &quot;gay marriage, that&#039;s just gross&quot;, wheras the wording &quot;gay and lesbian&quot; triggers the concept &quot;lesbian&quot; as in &quot;lesbian marriage, I&#039;m all for it. Get it going ladies, I&#039;ll be watching you on you*ahem*tube.&quot;.

That explaination strikes me as plausible. I can&#039;t be bothered to look up the references just now though, sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Disclaimer: I&#8217;m not from the US. Neither do I get the finer points of your language (so maybe I&#8217;m stating the obvious and you were joking) nor of your political debate (so maybe the reception of LGBT topics differs vastly from european &#8220;standards&#8221;). That being said:]</p>
<p>There is research to the effect that the word &#8220;homosexual&#8221; triggers the concept &#8220;gay&#8221; in people&#8217;s mind as in &#8220;gay marriage, that&#8217;s just gross&#8221;, wheras the wording &#8220;gay and lesbian&#8221; triggers the concept &#8220;lesbian&#8221; as in &#8220;lesbian marriage, I&#8217;m all for it. Get it going ladies, I&#8217;ll be watching you on you*ahem*tube.&#8221;.</p>
<p>That explaination strikes me as plausible. I can&#8217;t be bothered to look up the references just now though, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mediernas ansvar för missvisande opinionsundersökningar &#124; DN Debatt-betyg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mediernas ansvar för missvisande opinionsundersökningar &#124; DN Debatt-betyg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] *** Detsamma sker f ö även inom vetenskapen vad gäller politiskt heta ämnen som kvinnodiskriminering, som detta intressanta blogginlägg visar. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] *** Detsamma sker f ö även inom vetenskapen vad gäller politiskt heta ämnen som kvinnodiskriminering, som detta intressanta blogginlägg visar. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: AnyaArisohn</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 21:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only Lab Managers I&#039;ve had were in early undergraduate classes--Chemistry I and Physics I,II--open to all students requiring them(2 or 4 year). 
And they were graduate students, none of which were in my major: Electrical Engineering. 
Once specific courses were passed, usually by 2nd semester junior level, our labs(EE &amp; CSE specific) were pin code access &amp;OR student ID swipe. As long as there was a department faculty member behind their desk somewhere, aka the doors were unlocked lol, it was open for use. 
Depending on the university overall or its IEEE ranking, determines a lot of what &#039;happens&#039; within the halls of the engineering department. High IEEE ranking=filled positions for qualified lab managers in their respective areas. (ex. CalTech, CalPoly, MIT) Notable Universities for liberal arts with E programs=upper level student lab volunteers plus multiple department &#039;Dr-Study-Everybody-Because-Equality-N-Stuff&#039; makes for good class studies and school newspaper publishings. LOL

Side note: I&#039;ve never had a female professor in any of my EE courses. I&#039;ve also never WORKED with a female EE, or worked with female technicians (only 5 total in 12 years!) worth a crap and they all were transferred to different departments and/or left the job completely. Interesting, eh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only Lab Managers I&#8217;ve had were in early undergraduate classes&#8211;Chemistry I and Physics I,II&#8211;open to all students requiring them(2 or 4 year).<br />
And they were graduate students, none of which were in my major: Electrical Engineering.<br />
Once specific courses were passed, usually by 2nd semester junior level, our labs(EE &amp; CSE specific) were pin code access &amp;OR student ID swipe. As long as there was a department faculty member behind their desk somewhere, aka the doors were unlocked lol, it was open for use.<br />
Depending on the university overall or its IEEE ranking, determines a lot of what &#8216;happens&#8217; within the halls of the engineering department. High IEEE ranking=filled positions for qualified lab managers in their respective areas. (ex. CalTech, CalPoly, MIT) Notable Universities for liberal arts with E programs=upper level student lab volunteers plus multiple department &#8216;Dr-Study-Everybody-Because-Equality-N-Stuff&#8217; makes for good class studies and school newspaper publishings. LOL</p>
<p>Side note: I&#8217;ve never had a female professor in any of my EE courses. I&#8217;ve also never WORKED with a female EE, or worked with female technicians (only 5 total in 12 years!) worth a crap and they all were transferred to different departments and/or left the job completely. Interesting, eh.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Norem</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2015 22:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loved this discussion, but feel compelled to point out an additional point that goes beyond the arguments here:  drawing conclusions about the sexism or lack thereof an entire set of fields based on hiring decisions is majorly problematic.  There are so many points where sexism can influence career trajectories; hiring may be the most scrutinized at this point in history, and one of the easiest for those afraid of being accused of sexism and for those promoting broader representation to choose qualified women over qualified men.  There may be mixed evidence about bias at a particular point, but there is certainly a lot of evidence (certainly imperfect) about other points where bias can influence decision-making:  e.g., MIT&#039;s self-study that showed that ALREADY HIRED female professors were systematically given significantly less lab space than already hired male professors.   So even if we were 100% positive that there was a bias for women at the point of hiring, it would only give us a snapshot of one point in the process of educating, recruiting and retaining women and men into STEM fields.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved this discussion, but feel compelled to point out an additional point that goes beyond the arguments here:  drawing conclusions about the sexism or lack thereof an entire set of fields based on hiring decisions is majorly problematic.  There are so many points where sexism can influence career trajectories; hiring may be the most scrutinized at this point in history, and one of the easiest for those afraid of being accused of sexism and for those promoting broader representation to choose qualified women over qualified men.  There may be mixed evidence about bias at a particular point, but there is certainly a lot of evidence (certainly imperfect) about other points where bias can influence decision-making:  e.g., MIT&#8217;s self-study that showed that ALREADY HIRED female professors were systematically given significantly less lab space than already hired male professors.   So even if we were 100% positive that there was a bias for women at the point of hiring, it would only give us a snapshot of one point in the process of educating, recruiting and retaining women and men into STEM fields.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Al, Jo, Bo, and Lu were all people in my high school graduating class whose names I happen to remember and contain 2 letters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al, Jo, Bo, and Lu were all people in my high school graduating class whose names I happen to remember and contain 2 letters.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightning Round &#8211; 2015/04/22 &#124; Free Northerner</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] On the  science of sexism in STEM. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] On the  science of sexism in STEM. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Irrelevant</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2015 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the point where he calls you sexist for thinking that having a firm grasp of the authority of your office is inherently masculine and then the argument bottoms out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the point where he calls you sexist for thinking that having a firm grasp of the authority of your office is inherently masculine and then the argument bottoms out.</p>
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		<title>By: Nita</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2015 09:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;the reaction from the construction crew isn’t sexist per se – they give the same hard time to men who act that way&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, they give a hard time to anyone who fails to act like a manly man -- that&#039;s not sexist at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the reaction from the construction crew isn’t sexist per se – they give the same hard time to men who act that way</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, they give a hard time to anyone who fails to act like a manly man &#8212; that&#8217;s not sexist at all.</p>
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		<title>By: nydwracu</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2015 03:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know someone who has two middle names, and, rather than privileging one over the other, declines to use either, and instead always enters her middle name as X.

(Also, part of my family has a middle name that&#039;s passed down like a last name, but it&#039;s considered to be a middle name.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know someone who has two middle names, and, rather than privileging one over the other, declines to use either, and instead always enters her middle name as X.</p>
<p>(Also, part of my family has a middle name that&#8217;s passed down like a last name, but it&#8217;s considered to be a middle name.)</p>
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		<title>By: nydwracu</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2015 03:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not uncommon in the DC area for the streets to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9925621,-76.9265972,17z&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;try to be in alphabetical order&lt;/a&gt;. (Scroll up.)

(If you look around in that area, you&#039;ll see similar short runs of (almost) alphabetically-named streets: Romlon St, Samar St, Tonquil St, Tonquil Pl, Usange St; Cedar Ln, Emack Rd, Foreston Rd, Garove St, Hennessey Dr, Indigo Dr, Longhorn Dr, Montgomery Pl; Ash Rd, Battersea Dr, Chilcoate Ln, Emack Rd; Lexington Ave, Manheim Ave, Naples Ave, Olympia Ave, Lincoln Ave, Quimby Ave; Jamestown Rd, Kelliher Rd, Kimberly Rd, Lancer Dr, Lancer Pl, Lancer Pl again, Madison St, Manorwood Dr, Nicholson St, Oglethorpe St, Oneida Pl, Oliver St, Oliver St again, Powhatan Rd...)

I especially like &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com/maps/@38.960664,-76.9385366,16z&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this part&lt;/a&gt; -- in addition to reusing street names up to three times (and notice that the two Gallatin Streets are one-way in opposite directions), it&#039;s clear that they named the streets by looking at a map, and didn&#039;t pay much attention to how the system would work for people going up all the intersecting roads.

The effect of it all, just like that of DC&#039;s grid system, is that it looks like a bunch of committees of not too terribly bright people got together and tried to impose many different systems at once, resulting in an incoherent and ridiculous mash that is best ignored as much as possible. 

This also happens to describe the entity that lives in the area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not uncommon in the DC area for the streets to <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9925621,-76.9265972,17z" rel="nofollow">try to be in alphabetical order</a>. (Scroll up.)</p>
<p>(If you look around in that area, you&#8217;ll see similar short runs of (almost) alphabetically-named streets: Romlon St, Samar St, Tonquil St, Tonquil Pl, Usange St; Cedar Ln, Emack Rd, Foreston Rd, Garove St, Hennessey Dr, Indigo Dr, Longhorn Dr, Montgomery Pl; Ash Rd, Battersea Dr, Chilcoate Ln, Emack Rd; Lexington Ave, Manheim Ave, Naples Ave, Olympia Ave, Lincoln Ave, Quimby Ave; Jamestown Rd, Kelliher Rd, Kimberly Rd, Lancer Dr, Lancer Pl, Lancer Pl again, Madison St, Manorwood Dr, Nicholson St, Oglethorpe St, Oneida Pl, Oliver St, Oliver St again, Powhatan Rd&#8230;)</p>
<p>I especially like <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@38.960664,-76.9385366,16z" rel="nofollow">this part</a> &#8212; in addition to reusing street names up to three times (and notice that the two Gallatin Streets are one-way in opposite directions), it&#8217;s clear that they named the streets by looking at a map, and didn&#8217;t pay much attention to how the system would work for people going up all the intersecting roads.</p>
<p>The effect of it all, just like that of DC&#8217;s grid system, is that it looks like a bunch of committees of not too terribly bright people got together and tried to impose many different systems at once, resulting in an incoherent and ridiculous mash that is best ignored as much as possible. </p>
<p>This also happens to describe the entity that lives in the area.</p>
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