Comments on: Open Thread 4: The Quick And The Thread http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/ In a mad world, all blogging is psychiatry blogging Sat, 25 Jul 2015 04:20:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.3 By: Anonymous http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/#comment-146397 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:53:30 +0000 http://slatestarcodex.com/?p=2795#comment-146397 The phrasing sounds like they were paying a lot of attention to ADA.

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]]> By: RCF http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/#comment-146303 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:55:21 +0000 http://slatestarcodex.com/?p=2795#comment-146303 That sounds rather contrary to ADA.

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]]> By: Matthew http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/#comment-145441 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 02:09:05 +0000 http://slatestarcodex.com/?p=2795#comment-145441 This seems like a pun Scott might appreciate.

Also, I’ve just discovered the perfect card game for the SSC set.

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]]> By: noahluck http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/#comment-145242 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:48:45 +0000 http://slatestarcodex.com/?p=2795#comment-145242 Interpersonal utility comparisons don’t have to be a problem. A fair scheme that agents behind a Rawlsian veil of ignorance might agree to is “relative utilitarianism”. In that, each agent’s least-valued possibility is set to 0 and each agent’s most-valued possibility is set to 1, and all intermediate values are interpolated appropriately. If an agent has a bounded utility function, then it’s easy to linearly rescale it to the range [0,1]. If an agent has an unbounded utility function, you can transform it to the range [0,1] with, say, a sigmoid function. The ordinal rankings are unaffected by such a transformation, but there is severe distortion of the relative differences in utility over most of the range, so the veil-of-ignorance solution would probably be to let any agent with an unbounded utility function select its own function to transform its utility to the range [0,1]. (To forestall voting strategy effects that can lead to suboptimal outcomes, they would need to choose those transforms without access to polling data on others’ values.)

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]]> By: noahluck http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/#comment-145239 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:24:34 +0000 http://slatestarcodex.com/?p=2795#comment-145239 When reading Nick Bostrom’s “Superintelligence” in which he described Coherent Extrapolated Volition, I couldn’t help but think it was missing the insights about diverse communities from the Archipelago blog post here on SSC. Whereas CEV tends to be described in terms of humanity‘s volition, an “Archipelagian” version might start off “For all humans and all communities of humans…” and then describe doing CEV. Thus it could explicitly condone the idea that humanity-as-a-whole’s volitions might not cohere, but that smaller communities could still be formed and nurtured according to their own principles. (Those with anti-speciesist concerns could go farther and say “For all salient groups of living things, weighted by their moral worth, …”.)

Plus, for Moloch-like reasons, corporations and nation-states might be more likely to collaborate on an AI that also sought their interests as well as the interests of the people of which they are made.

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]]> By: Joachim Schipper http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/#comment-145200 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 05:21:49 +0000 http://slatestarcodex.com/?p=2795#comment-145200 That makes complete sense. And thanks for replying!

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]]> By: Scott Alexander http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/#comment-145106 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 00:54:32 +0000 http://slatestarcodex.com/?p=2795#comment-145106 I just did! I’ll take a look! Thank you!

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]]> By: Vertebrat http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/#comment-145033 Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:36:59 +0000 http://slatestarcodex.com/?p=2795#comment-145033 I have used some browser (I forget which, but it’s not Firefox) that added an entry in the context menu to follow the cite link. Since there was no way for the user to know when this option existed, it was useless. ISTM it would be enough to simply make the entire blockquote function as a link (showing the cite and a suitable cursor on mouseover, but not otherwise visually distinguished).

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]]> By: Paul Torek http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/#comment-144822 Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:28:14 +0000 http://slatestarcodex.com/?p=2795#comment-144822 Not compound interest, because I expect that on that score, an early gift would outperform my investments. Rather, uncertainty about where I can do the most good, combined with pretty high confidence that changes to my future-self’s understanding of “the most good” would be regarded as benign by present-self.

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]]> By: Emile http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/08/open-thread-4-the-quick-and-the-thread/#comment-144679 Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:47:14 +0000 http://slatestarcodex.com/?p=2795#comment-144679 :(

*hugs*

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