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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/07/ssris-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/#comment-134208</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you tried burnout as an explanation for this?  One of the main symptoms of burnout is difficulty concentrating.  If you seem to be excessively sensitive to burnout, you could also consider fatigue to be a symptom.  There are over 100 potential causes of fatigue, but some of them are as simple as a vitamin deficiency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried burnout as an explanation for this?  One of the main symptoms of burnout is difficulty concentrating.  If you seem to be excessively sensitive to burnout, you could also consider fatigue to be a symptom.  There are over 100 potential causes of fatigue, but some of them are as simple as a vitamin deficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2014 05:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t going to mention this because your article is about SSRIs and I thought this meant that discussing other types of anti-depressants would be off-topic.  Then I saw that you mentioned Cymbalta.  Since you have apparently chosen to include other anti-depressants as well, you I thought you might be interested in my response to this:

&quot;There is a subgroup of depressed patients whose depression takes the form of not being able to feel anything at all, and I worry this effect would exacerbate their problem, but I have never heard this from anyone and SSRIs do not seem less effective in that subgroup, so these might be two different things that only sound alike.&quot;

The depression did not take the form of not being able to feel anything at all, but it did (before medication) result in me feeling less intensely.  I tried Cymbalta for about a month.  At first, it was great and it made me feel very happy.  Then, I began having side-effects and could barely feel.  I noticed that it was impossible to feel excited, and that my inability to even slightly excite myself made it impossible to feel motivated.  I stopped caring about things completely.

Examples: One of the most difficult things for me was getting out of bed to go to work in the morning.  This became much harder after the Cymbalta side-effects began.  Before Cymbalta, I at least had a little bit of anxiety that created an aversion to getting fired.  This was just enough to make me get out of bed in time to go to work.  After one month on Cymbalta, that anxiety was gone.  I just didn&#039;t care at all.  I don&#039;t remember how I managed to make myself go to work despite that when I first noticed this, but I realized that every day that I let this continue, there was a significant risk of me simply not getting out of bed.  I also realized that because I had lost my ability to motivate myself with anxiety and excitement, I had become incapable of getting myself to work on any of the things that would improve my life situation.  

So, in addition to Cymbalta causing severe emotional blunting that I believe posed a risk to my livelihood, Cymbalta caused severe apathy that made me incapable of doing the extra work it takes to build a meaningful and desirable life.  I also experienced intolerable gastrointenstinal symptoms.  For those reasons, I quit Cymbalta.  Even without the intolerable gastrointestinal symptoms, I would have concluded that Cymbalta was too detrimental for me to continue using it.  Even if getting out of bed had been easy enough to be sure that I&#039;d do it consistently, I saw the irony involved in taking a pill that perpetuated the problem it was supposed to help me solve.  An anti-depressant that makes me too apathetic to bother with building a more worthwhile life is not serving it&#039;s purpose and is therefore unacceptable to me.  Now you have heard of at least one person who experienced severe, potentially debilitating apathy on anti-depressants, and found that specifically Cymbalta caused severe apathy as a side-effect by exacerbating it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t going to mention this because your article is about SSRIs and I thought this meant that discussing other types of anti-depressants would be off-topic.  Then I saw that you mentioned Cymbalta.  Since you have apparently chosen to include other anti-depressants as well, you I thought you might be interested in my response to this:</p>
<p>&#8220;There is a subgroup of depressed patients whose depression takes the form of not being able to feel anything at all, and I worry this effect would exacerbate their problem, but I have never heard this from anyone and SSRIs do not seem less effective in that subgroup, so these might be two different things that only sound alike.&#8221;</p>
<p>The depression did not take the form of not being able to feel anything at all, but it did (before medication) result in me feeling less intensely.  I tried Cymbalta for about a month.  At first, it was great and it made me feel very happy.  Then, I began having side-effects and could barely feel.  I noticed that it was impossible to feel excited, and that my inability to even slightly excite myself made it impossible to feel motivated.  I stopped caring about things completely.</p>
<p>Examples: One of the most difficult things for me was getting out of bed to go to work in the morning.  This became much harder after the Cymbalta side-effects began.  Before Cymbalta, I at least had a little bit of anxiety that created an aversion to getting fired.  This was just enough to make me get out of bed in time to go to work.  After one month on Cymbalta, that anxiety was gone.  I just didn&#8217;t care at all.  I don&#8217;t remember how I managed to make myself go to work despite that when I first noticed this, but I realized that every day that I let this continue, there was a significant risk of me simply not getting out of bed.  I also realized that because I had lost my ability to motivate myself with anxiety and excitement, I had become incapable of getting myself to work on any of the things that would improve my life situation.  </p>
<p>So, in addition to Cymbalta causing severe emotional blunting that I believe posed a risk to my livelihood, Cymbalta caused severe apathy that made me incapable of doing the extra work it takes to build a meaningful and desirable life.  I also experienced intolerable gastrointenstinal symptoms.  For those reasons, I quit Cymbalta.  Even without the intolerable gastrointestinal symptoms, I would have concluded that Cymbalta was too detrimental for me to continue using it.  Even if getting out of bed had been easy enough to be sure that I&#8217;d do it consistently, I saw the irony involved in taking a pill that perpetuated the problem it was supposed to help me solve.  An anti-depressant that makes me too apathetic to bother with building a more worthwhile life is not serving it&#8217;s purpose and is therefore unacceptable to me.  Now you have heard of at least one person who experienced severe, potentially debilitating apathy on anti-depressants, and found that specifically Cymbalta caused severe apathy as a side-effect by exacerbating it.</p>
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		<title>By: The (depression) drugs don&#8217;t work &#124; Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The (depression) drugs don&#8217;t work &#124; Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 01:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anthony David Adams</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Curious if you&#039;ve analyzed the research suggesting that gratitude journaling / writing gratitude letters is just as effective as prozac. Would be curious to see your ideas on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious if you&#8217;ve analyzed the research suggesting that gratitude journaling / writing gratitude letters is just as effective as prozac. Would be curious to see your ideas on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Increase Longevity And Intelligence With Boosted Klotho Levels &#124; Rockstar Research Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Increase Longevity And Intelligence With Boosted Klotho Levels &#124; Rockstar Research Magazine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] were previously no other single-point genes believed to account for even a 1 point IQ gain. And a 6 point IQ boost is almost the difference between the average farm laborer and the average elementar&#8230;. So this could be a big [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Friday links &#124; Meta Rabbit</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] excellent summary of what is known about SSRIs. I really liked both the conversion of effect size to weight loss numbers and the discussion of [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] excellent summary of what is known about SSRIs. I really liked both the conversion of effect size to weight loss numbers and the discussion of [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Eva H.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eva H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2014 01:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just want to say thank you for a fantastic post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to say thank you for a fantastic post.</p>
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		<title>By: Monday Miscellany: Cotard&#8217;s CBT, Clients &#124; Gruntled &#38; Hinged</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monday Miscellany: Cotard&#8217;s CBT, Clients &#124; Gruntled &#38; Hinged]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Scott claims this is much more about antidepressants than you wanted to know. Relevant to some previous posts around these [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Scott claims this is much more about antidepressants than you wanted to know. Relevant to some previous posts around these [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Oligopsony</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2014 20:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is using Art or whatever to process unwanted emotions healthy, or is it just a high-status excuse to engage in rumination?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is using Art or whatever to process unwanted emotions healthy, or is it just a high-status excuse to engage in rumination?</p>
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		<title>By: Cavalcade of Mammals &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Links for July 2014</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cavalcade of Mammals &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Links for July 2014]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2014 04:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Virginia Teacher of the Year Tells Why He Resigned Moleculo Technology is Available as TruSeq Synthetic Long-Read DNA Library Prep Kits (local assembly gives 8-10kb contigs Biologists vs. Astronomers on the Fermi Paradox Nutrition: Vitamins on trial by Melinda Wenner Moyer (little evidence of benefit of supplements, only for deficient individuals 10 algorithms that dominate our world Heinlein in Dimension by Alexei Panshin Kansas implements GOP economic polices and crashes Texas Republican Party platform is nuts , Hendrik Hertzberg in the New Yorker SSRIs: not much better than nothing, but with serious common side effects [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Virginia Teacher of the Year Tells Why He Resigned Moleculo Technology is Available as TruSeq Synthetic Long-Read DNA Library Prep Kits (local assembly gives 8-10kb contigs Biologists vs. Astronomers on the Fermi Paradox Nutrition: Vitamins on trial by Melinda Wenner Moyer (little evidence of benefit of supplements, only for deficient individuals 10 algorithms that dominate our world Heinlein in Dimension by Alexei Panshin Kansas implements GOP economic polices and crashes Texas Republican Party platform is nuts , Hendrik Hertzberg in the New Yorker SSRIs: not much better than nothing, but with serious common side effects [&#8230;]</p>
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