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		<title>By: Ruby</title>
		<link>http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/06/09/constant-vigilance/#comment-109230</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 08:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is idea of budgeting rationality occurred to me recently, pretty gratifying that it hit Robin Hanson&#039;s mind too.

My framing was slightly different: I was debating some question of what I should do, and realising that I&#039;d already reached my conclusion for a non-rational reason, knew it, and was attempting to fight it and reason afresh clearly. But it wasn&#039;t going to happen, I couldn&#039;t be bothered putting in that effort and was just going to find clever reasons to justify that I had deliberated properly and engineer the conclusion I still wanted.

So in this situation I could either:
1) Put in a token effort and attempt to reason afresh, end up with the desired conclusion, but continue to think myself rational.
2) Acknowledge that it would be unsustainable to bring my best rational efforts to the fore on all occasions, let myself knowingly be biased in this decision, and hence not fool myself about the extent of my rationality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is idea of budgeting rationality occurred to me recently, pretty gratifying that it hit Robin Hanson&#8217;s mind too.</p>
<p>My framing was slightly different: I was debating some question of what I should do, and realising that I&#8217;d already reached my conclusion for a non-rational reason, knew it, and was attempting to fight it and reason afresh clearly. But it wasn&#8217;t going to happen, I couldn&#8217;t be bothered putting in that effort and was just going to find clever reasons to justify that I had deliberated properly and engineer the conclusion I still wanted.</p>
<p>So in this situation I could either:<br />
1) Put in a token effort and attempt to reason afresh, end up with the desired conclusion, but continue to think myself rational.<br />
2) Acknowledge that it would be unsustainable to bring my best rational efforts to the fore on all occasions, let myself knowingly be biased in this decision, and hence not fool myself about the extent of my rationality.</p>
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		<title>By: Nornagest</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 01:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My housemate in college used OTC cold medicine to get high in my presence a couple of times, although not enough that I&#039;d call it a pattern of abuse (just &quot;stupid&quot;).  He was a literature major, in my estimation a pretty smart if sometimes impulsive guy, and was white.

I haven&#039;t been able to find any data on OTC medication abuse by ethnicity, although it looks like dextromethorphan is most common among high-school aged users.  Sleeping pills and OTC stimulants seem to follow somewhat different patterns of use.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My housemate in college used OTC cold medicine to get high in my presence a couple of times, although not enough that I&#8217;d call it a pattern of abuse (just &#8220;stupid&#8221;).  He was a literature major, in my estimation a pretty smart if sometimes impulsive guy, and was white.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been able to find any data on OTC medication abuse by ethnicity, although it looks like dextromethorphan is most common among high-school aged users.  Sleeping pills and OTC stimulants seem to follow somewhat different patterns of use.</p>
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		<title>By: Nornagest</title>
		<link>http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/06/09/constant-vigilance/#comment-101188</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 05:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish I could upvote this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could upvote this.</p>
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		<title>By: Nornagest</title>
		<link>http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/06/09/constant-vigilance/#comment-101186</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 05:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, jujitsu doesn&#039;t have nearly the emphasis on movement that some of the other stuff I&#039;ve studied does.  I &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; credit it with finally teaching me how to do a proper hip throw, and it&#039;s done a lot for my ukemi.  But I expect that&#039;s not what you&#039;re trying to get at.

Movement generalizes well &lt;i&gt;between&lt;/i&gt; martial arts, as one might expect: there are only so many ways to hit someone, or to do a front fall.  And &lt;i&gt;certain&lt;/i&gt; aspects of movement do generalize outside them.  My balance is a lot better than it was on the day when I put on my leopard skin and rode my dad&#039;s brontosaurus to my first class.  So&#039;s my posture, and I&#039;m better at issuing power from movement, etc.  But the aspects that&#039;re useful outside martial arts come from spending a lot of time doing things where balance and posture and power are important, not from directly trying to apply my moves on the mat to applications off it.  It&#039;s the latter that I object to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, jujitsu doesn&#8217;t have nearly the emphasis on movement that some of the other stuff I&#8217;ve studied does.  I <i>can</i> credit it with finally teaching me how to do a proper hip throw, and it&#8217;s done a lot for my ukemi.  But I expect that&#8217;s not what you&#8217;re trying to get at.</p>
<p>Movement generalizes well <i>between</i> martial arts, as one might expect: there are only so many ways to hit someone, or to do a front fall.  And <i>certain</i> aspects of movement do generalize outside them.  My balance is a lot better than it was on the day when I put on my leopard skin and rode my dad&#8217;s brontosaurus to my first class.  So&#8217;s my posture, and I&#8217;m better at issuing power from movement, etc.  But the aspects that&#8217;re useful outside martial arts come from spending a lot of time doing things where balance and posture and power are important, not from directly trying to apply my moves on the mat to applications off it.  It&#8217;s the latter that I object to.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Knight</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2014 04:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Natural&quot; is a problematic term, related to &quot;qi,&quot; but do you not find that the movements of jujitsu eventually teach you how to move in the rest of your life? Or, for that matter, how to move in all your other martial arts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Natural&#8221; is a problematic term, related to &#8220;qi,&#8221; but do you not find that the movements of jujitsu eventually teach you how to move in the rest of your life? Or, for that matter, how to move in all your other martial arts?</p>
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		<title>By: Nornagest</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 22:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kuk Sool Won (an eclectic Korean system, mostly strikes), Western fencing, Toyama ryu battodo, and jujitsu, in rough chronological order.  My highest rank is in Kuk Sool, but I&#039;ve been actively studying Toyama ryu the longest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kuk Sool Won (an eclectic Korean system, mostly strikes), Western fencing, Toyama ryu battodo, and jujitsu, in rough chronological order.  My highest rank is in Kuk Sool, but I&#8217;ve been actively studying Toyama ryu the longest.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Knight</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 08:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What martial art do you do seriously?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What martial art do you do seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: nydwracu</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Few whites, quite possibly none, buy Robitussion over the counter to get high. That is entirely a black habit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I personally know a white math major at a fairly prestigious college who had, for a while, a habit of getting high off Robitussin.

I can&#039;t find race statistics, but it&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;entirely&lt;/i&gt; a black habit. 

(However, he never caused any trouble.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Few whites, quite possibly none, buy Robitussion over the counter to get high. That is entirely a black habit.</p></blockquote>
<p>I personally know a white math major at a fairly prestigious college who had, for a while, a habit of getting high off Robitussin.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find race statistics, but it&#8217;s not <i>entirely</i> a black habit. </p>
<p>(However, he never caused any trouble.)</p>
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		<title>By: James A. Donald</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Regarding meth, don’t guess, use the data. In the US, meth users and abusers are more likely to be white/Hispanic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I stand corrected:  I was guessing on the basis of the behavior with crack cocaine.

But is still the case the methamphetamine is not an over the counter drug - that whites do not abuse over the counter drugs, because if they did, they would not be over the counter drugs, while blacks frequently do abuse over the counter drugs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Regarding meth, don’t guess, use the data. In the US, meth users and abusers are more likely to be white/Hispanic.</p></blockquote>
<p>I stand corrected:  I was guessing on the basis of the behavior with crack cocaine.</p>
<p>But is still the case the methamphetamine is not an over the counter drug &#8211; that whites do not abuse over the counter drugs, because if they did, they would not be over the counter drugs, while blacks frequently do abuse over the counter drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Stanislaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding meth, don&#039;t guess, use the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17567398&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;data&lt;/a&gt;. In the US, meth users and abusers are more likely to be white/Hispanic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding meth, don&#8217;t guess, use the <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17567398" rel="nofollow">data</a>. In the US, meth users and abusers are more likely to be white/Hispanic.</p>
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