Comments on: Fake Euthanasia Statistics

By: Phil Goetz

Phil Goetz — Mon, 30 Sep 2013 23:00:57 +0000

Impressive work, Scott. I think euthanasia is like the death penalty: A waste of attention and energy. Effort goes into fighting for or against the death penalty, instead of into fighting a justice system that regularly sentences people to long incarcerations with little evidence or for victimless crimes, or fighting crime or its causes. Effort goes into fighting for or against euthanasia that should go into fighting the legal and cultural strangleholds on doctors that prevent them from giving their patients effective treatments, and that prevent patients from having control over their own bodies, in every circumstance.

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By: Leo

Leo — Fri, 06 Sep 2013 14:56:33 +0000

She does.

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The correct Position on Euthanasia – REVEALED! | Pseudonym Writes — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 19:19:15 +0000

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By: MugaSofer

MugaSofer — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 18:53:48 +0000

Honestly, you’ve convinced me, this slippery slope seems quite well-guarded against if it were ever greased at all.

But I’m still pretty curious: how reliable are those numbers, considering that the doctor who euthanizes the patient is unlikely to say there were other/better options? And how much uncertainty is involved here, especially for things like “they would have lived less than an hour anyway”?

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By: houseboatonstyx

houseboatonstyx — Tue, 03 Sep 2013 18:29:43 +0000

I had a friend who, still active but anticipating decline, did kill himself after much research on methods. He concluded that he would have to do it before he became bedridden or otherwise unable to complete a somewhat demanding and illegal action.

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Sep 2013 17:11:37 +0000

There might also people who avoid contact with the medical system when it would be most useful to them, because they anticipate it will undermine their freedom, e.g. depressed people who consider talking to a doctor about their suicidal ideation, and then think, “Wait, they can lock me up for that”, and then bury the idea. Or old or sick people who kill themselves at home alone with inferior methods instead of being institutionalized when it would otherwise become unavoidable.

The numbers of life-years lost this way should certainly be of interest for the pro-lifers.

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By: houseboatonstyx

houseboatonstyx — Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:25:44 +0000

A late thought. When the ambulance came for an elderly relative of mine, the medic asked me if he had a DNR request, or if he would prefer to be revived.

I said: “I don’t know. Bring him back; if he doesn’t like it, he can commit suicide later.”

Medic: “He may not be able to; DNR may be his only chance to avoid a long process in hospital.”

So, in this sort of case, availability of legal euthanasia on demand would encourage keeping the patient alive when in doubt.

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By: Medivh

Medivh — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 21:56:17 +0000

” Your life is yours […]”
Thanks a lot for writing this. I absolutely needed to hear this. There are just to many assholes around who think they own other peoples lifes.

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By: Yadal

Yadal — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 09:59:30 +0000

This thing won’t let me respone to Anonymous directly, but I’ll point out that the problem of tradeoffs is a problem of all philosophies based on trading utilities.

As for your solution, if you could pull that off medically I think it would work.

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