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		<title>By: grendelkhan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanic_feeling&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the oceanic feeling&lt;/a&gt;. I didn&#039;t know what that really &lt;i&gt;meant&lt;/i&gt; until I read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregegan.net/OCEANIC/Complete/Oceanic.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Oceanic&quot;&lt;/a&gt; (short story, available at the link, very much worth it), and I wondered about how I would have reacted if I&#039;d been faced with that experience as a child.

As it happened, when I reached my late teens I was surprised to hear about people talking about their religious belief bringing them great happiness (I thought it was just something that made you feel guilty about sex), and I spent my formative years reading Hofstadter and internalizing reductionism, so even if I &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; have that kind of experience, it&#039;d be some kind of mushy one-with-the-universe thing, which I sort-of got reading &lt;i&gt;The Ancestor&#039;s Tale&lt;/i&gt; anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanic_feeling" rel="nofollow">the oceanic feeling</a>. I didn&#8217;t know what that really <i>meant</i> until I read <a href="http://www.gregegan.net/OCEANIC/Complete/Oceanic.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Oceanic&#8221;</a> (short story, available at the link, very much worth it), and I wondered about how I would have reacted if I&#8217;d been faced with that experience as a child.</p>
<p>As it happened, when I reached my late teens I was surprised to hear about people talking about their religious belief bringing them great happiness (I thought it was just something that made you feel guilty about sex), and I spent my formative years reading Hofstadter and internalizing reductionism, so even if I <i>did</i> have that kind of experience, it&#8217;d be some kind of mushy one-with-the-universe thing, which I sort-of got reading <i>The Ancestor&#8217;s Tale</i> anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Diogenes Teufelsdrockh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diogenes Teufelsdrockh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone should rewrite &quot;Thursday&quot; so it&#039;s about a group of reactionaries who are all secretly liberals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone should rewrite &#8220;Thursday&#8221; so it&#8217;s about a group of reactionaries who are all secretly liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaj Sotala</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaj Sotala]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The idea of talking about what goes on in the individual soul, of having strong opinions about it, isn’t a very modern sensibility at all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not quite sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The idea of talking about what goes on in the individual soul, of having strong opinions about it, isn’t a very modern sensibility at all.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, you see this on the right when a terrorist leader dies, or the left when well known marginally sucessful right-wing politicians die.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you see this on the right when a terrorist leader dies, or the left when well known marginally sucessful right-wing politicians die.</p>
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		<title>By: Sniffnoy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sniffnoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, agreed.

Also, this is entirely tangential, but Razib Khan &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=13155&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;makes&lt;/a&gt; the interesting point that in some contexts, the notion of &quot;dominance&quot; (in the genetic sense) is a social construct.  (Specifically, this occurs when the possible values of the affected trait are binned in socially-constructed ways.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, agreed.</p>
<p>Also, this is entirely tangential, but Razib Khan <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=13155" rel="nofollow">makes</a> the interesting point that in some contexts, the notion of &#8220;dominance&#8221; (in the genetic sense) is a social construct.  (Specifically, this occurs when the possible values of the affected trait are binned in socially-constructed ways.)</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gilbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup, but that trend doesn&#039;t start at the printing press, it starts somewhere in Old Testament times and then gains steam at Golgotha.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, but that trend doesn&#8217;t start at the printing press, it starts somewhere in Old Testament times and then gains steam at Golgotha.</p>
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		<title>By: amuchmoreexotic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amuchmoreexotic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you aware of &lt;a href=&quot;http://strangenotions.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Strange Notions&lt;/a&gt;? It&#039;s a Catholic run site that bills itself as the premiere meeting place for atheists and Catholics, but then weirdly runs all Catholic articles (with a single atheist article once). When challenged on this, the proprietor claims that he can&#039;t get atheists to contribute (among other reasons, like &quot;the Speaker of the House has to belong to one of the parties&quot; and &quot;Catholics are presenting the positive case so the atheists just have to rebut in comments&quot;).

Would you consider putting this excellent article forward for publication on Strange Notions, Scott?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you aware of <a href="http://strangenotions.com" rel="nofollow">Strange Notions</a>? It&#8217;s a Catholic run site that bills itself as the premiere meeting place for atheists and Catholics, but then weirdly runs all Catholic articles (with a single atheist article once). When challenged on this, the proprietor claims that he can&#8217;t get atheists to contribute (among other reasons, like &#8220;the Speaker of the House has to belong to one of the parties&#8221; and &#8220;Catholics are presenting the positive case so the atheists just have to rebut in comments&#8221;).</p>
<p>Would you consider putting this excellent article forward for publication on Strange Notions, Scott?</p>
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		<title>By: The What-You’d-Implicitly-Heard-Before Telling Thing &#171; Random Ramblings of Rude Reality</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The What-You’d-Implicitly-Heard-Before Telling Thing &#171; Random Ramblings of Rude Reality]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 04:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] K. Chesterton, whom I praised yesterday, is also famous for the argument of the &#8220;truth-telling [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] K. Chesterton, whom I praised yesterday, is also famous for the argument of the &#8220;truth-telling [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 03:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I do hope you check out Tim O&#039;Neill!  He writes about medieval history like you would expect from, say, a Westerner writing about Confucianism:  like a historian, rather than a partisan.  I&#039;ve learned a lot of good history and got some good book recommendations from him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I do hope you check out Tim O&#8217;Neill!  He writes about medieval history like you would expect from, say, a Westerner writing about Confucianism:  like a historian, rather than a partisan.  I&#8217;ve learned a lot of good history and got some good book recommendations from him.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 03:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, people were executed for heresy, often in quite nasty ways.  I do not dispute this.  But I do not believe you have a proper understanding of what was and was not considered to be a heresy.  Questioning the literal interpretation of Scripture, in particular, was &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; considered a heresy.  As I said, St. Augustine wrote three books on how to interpret Genesis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, people were executed for heresy, often in quite nasty ways.  I do not dispute this.  But I do not believe you have a proper understanding of what was and was not considered to be a heresy.  Questioning the literal interpretation of Scripture, in particular, was <i>never</i> considered a heresy.  As I said, St. Augustine wrote three books on how to interpret Genesis.</p>
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