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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/06/09/all-debates-are-bravery-debates/#comment-136871</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HOLY SHIT, YOU WROTE THE NON-LIBERTARIAN FAQ??

I cannot believe I did not know that.  I read that thing!  It&#039;s great!

(Now that I look at it again, I see your name is not even on it.  So I don&#039;t have to blame myself for failing to recognize the name.  Now I can blame you :) )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOLY SHIT, YOU WROTE THE NON-LIBERTARIAN FAQ??</p>
<p>I cannot believe I did not know that.  I read that thing!  It&#8217;s great!</p>
<p>(Now that I look at it again, I see your name is not even on it.  So I don&#8217;t have to blame myself for failing to recognize the name.  Now I can blame you <img src="http://slatestarcodex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/simple-smile.png" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Somers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke Somers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing Landmark emphasized - big time - was &#039;Story&#039; - we all make stuff up to fill in the gaps in our knowledge, and that&#039;s OK... but it&#039;s much better if you remember which stuff you made up so you treat it like a story you made up instead of fact.

That&#039;s another antidote to blaming yourself for things out of your control. Yes, take responsibility, but don&#039;t beat yourself up over tenuous connections that may not even exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing Landmark emphasized &#8211; big time &#8211; was &#8216;Story&#8217; &#8211; we all make stuff up to fill in the gaps in our knowledge, and that&#8217;s OK&#8230; but it&#8217;s much better if you remember which stuff you made up so you treat it like a story you made up instead of fact.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s another antidote to blaming yourself for things out of your control. Yes, take responsibility, but don&#8217;t beat yourself up over tenuous connections that may not even exist.</p>
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		<title>By: da55id</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2014 17:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your experience in cost vs output $ ratios is similar to the fuel expended in a heavy 3 stage rocket to get a lightweight payload to orbit. The social, economic and educational &quot;distances&quot; are similar so it is not a surprise that it costs so much to deliver a &quot;payload&quot; to such an unlikely place. In other words - it was money well spent. Having identified the inefficiency ratio, one could work on optimizations. That is what missionaries are from an economic standpoint.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your experience in cost vs output $ ratios is similar to the fuel expended in a heavy 3 stage rocket to get a lightweight payload to orbit. The social, economic and educational &#8220;distances&#8221; are similar so it is not a surprise that it costs so much to deliver a &#8220;payload&#8221; to such an unlikely place. In other words &#8211; it was money well spent. Having identified the inefficiency ratio, one could work on optimizations. That is what missionaries are from an economic standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: myriad ways</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[myriad ways]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 08:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the beef with &quot;low-income housing&quot; isn&#039;t with people being able to live near where they work - it&#039;s with things like &quot;the projects&quot;, big subsidized apartment blocks that somewhat resemble Terrafoam in purpose and texture, warehousing, etc. My suspicion is that it&#039;s more useful to everyone involved if poorer families can live next to middle-class and higher families (though forcing the ultrarich into such places is probably a lost cause) so their kids can mingle, and stuff like that. This is called mixed-income development.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the beef with &#8220;low-income housing&#8221; isn&#8217;t with people being able to live near where they work &#8211; it&#8217;s with things like &#8220;the projects&#8221;, big subsidized apartment blocks that somewhat resemble Terrafoam in purpose and texture, warehousing, etc. My suspicion is that it&#8217;s more useful to everyone involved if poorer families can live next to middle-class and higher families (though forcing the ultrarich into such places is probably a lost cause) so their kids can mingle, and stuff like that. This is called mixed-income development.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 21:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post basically boils down to &quot;Most problems, when framed as calibration problems, are difficult to solve even in theory&quot;.

No shit, Sherlock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post basically boils down to &#8220;Most problems, when framed as calibration problems, are difficult to solve even in theory&#8221;.</p>
<p>No shit, Sherlock.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But by the same token, if you *are* getting to repeat the message frequently (e.g. the audience is your kids, spouse, or subordinates), exaggerating will pull them too far in the direction of the message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But by the same token, if you *are* getting to repeat the message frequently (e.g. the audience is your kids, spouse, or subordinates), exaggerating will pull them too far in the direction of the message.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess this can be explained by the cognitive bias called Bayesian conservatism. People tend to underweight newer evidence, and repeating it won&#039;t work unless you can get away with sockpuppetry, so the solution is to exaggerate it.

The other day in League of Legends, I was playing AD carry, and before the game, the support (a teammate I&#039;d be working closely with) said she was new to her role and her character&#039;s abilities, and asked how to play them. So I knew not to expect much from her. But I performed much better than usual, especially in the early game, even though her performance made it clear she *wasn&#039;t* new. (She admitted late in the game that she&#039;d been trying to scare another teammate into backing out.) That was when I realized I&#039;d been holding myself back by expecting too *much* help from my teammates (which, for various reasons, would have been more justifiable when I was first learning the game).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_(Bayesian)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess this can be explained by the cognitive bias called Bayesian conservatism. People tend to underweight newer evidence, and repeating it won&#8217;t work unless you can get away with sockpuppetry, so the solution is to exaggerate it.</p>
<p>The other day in League of Legends, I was playing AD carry, and before the game, the support (a teammate I&#8217;d be working closely with) said she was new to her role and her character&#8217;s abilities, and asked how to play them. So I knew not to expect much from her. But I performed much better than usual, especially in the early game, even though her performance made it clear she *wasn&#8217;t* new. (She admitted late in the game that she&#8217;d been trying to scare another teammate into backing out.) That was when I realized I&#8217;d been holding myself back by expecting too *much* help from my teammates (which, for various reasons, would have been more justifiable when I was first learning the game).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dickens</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Dickens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2013 22:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the Landmark Forum/self-help book example, I think there&#039;s a large difference between the types of things that are &quot;your fault&quot; according to Landmark, and the types of things that are &quot;not your fault&quot; according to self-help books. Your parents getting divorced or your friend committing suicide is not your fault; not getting your work done on time or people thinking you smell bad is your fault.

In short, things are your fault if, by their being your fault, you have a good chance of fixing them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Landmark Forum/self-help book example, I think there&#8217;s a large difference between the types of things that are &#8220;your fault&#8221; according to Landmark, and the types of things that are &#8220;not your fault&#8221; according to self-help books. Your parents getting divorced or your friend committing suicide is not your fault; not getting your work done on time or people thinking you smell bad is your fault.</p>
<p>In short, things are your fault if, by their being your fault, you have a good chance of fixing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The idea of different sides coming from different cultures was very valuable to me, and it clears up many debates  that seem oppositional but aren&#039;t (legalizing marijuana, feminism vs men&#039;s rights, welfare, affirmative action), but it didn&#039;t help me to understand the biggest social debates any better.

For example, I can&#039;t think of a middle ground between gay rights groups and anti-gay groups that both sides can agree on. Can anyone else find such a middle ground, or figure out what the culture disagreement is?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of different sides coming from different cultures was very valuable to me, and it clears up many debates  that seem oppositional but aren&#8217;t (legalizing marijuana, feminism vs men&#8217;s rights, welfare, affirmative action), but it didn&#8217;t help me to understand the biggest social debates any better.</p>
<p>For example, I can&#8217;t think of a middle ground between gay rights groups and anti-gay groups that both sides can agree on. Can anyone else find such a middle ground, or figure out what the culture disagreement is?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dickens</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Dickens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2013 16:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another example: Typical Mind/&quot;you&#039;re perfectly normal&quot;. Sometimes people need to be reminded that not everyone&#039;s mind works just like theirs. But other times, people think their behavior is really weird and feel ashamed about it (I think a lot of people feel this way about masturbation), even though the behavior is typical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example: Typical Mind/&#8221;you&#8217;re perfectly normal&#8221;. Sometimes people need to be reminded that not everyone&#8217;s mind works just like theirs. But other times, people think their behavior is really weird and feel ashamed about it (I think a lot of people feel this way about masturbation), even though the behavior is typical.</p>
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