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		<title>By: Multiheaded</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Multiheaded]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holy fucking shit, every one of these is just excellent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy fucking shit, every one of these is just excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: im</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That doesn&#039;t actually sound very ideological...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn&#8217;t actually sound very ideological&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: novalis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[novalis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 05:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a spammer -- see their link (and google for the comment text).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a spammer &#8212; see their link (and google for the comment text).</p>
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		<title>By: naath</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Assassination whilst in power would have been an AFFRONT TO THE NATION!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assassination whilst in power would have been an AFFRONT TO THE NATION!</p>
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		<title>By: naath</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also possible distinguisher:

I do think there is a difference between the death of someone who was actively involved in doing Wrong Things (define as you please) at the time of death, and the death of someone who had in the past done Wrong Things but who was not in a position to do them any longer.

OBL was an actively part of the Al&#039;Q leadership; killing him may (may!) have reduced the amount of terrorist activity perpetrated by Al&#039;Q and saved lives.  Thatcher was a senile old lady, she no longer had any power to do anything of import - although her legacy lives on in British politics and her ideas continue to influence today&#039;s leaders her death will not bring that to a stop.

So I think that makes a difference.

However I also don&#039;t think that there&#039;s any reason to &quot;not speak ill of the dead&quot;.   Nor to &quot;respect&quot; people who have no earned my respect.  

Also to the point of the post - many people are making a huge fuss about &quot;respect&quot; and so forth and saying it&#039;s just *dreadful* that people are dancing on Thatcher&#039;s grave.  Both sides of the argument are out in force here...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also possible distinguisher:</p>
<p>I do think there is a difference between the death of someone who was actively involved in doing Wrong Things (define as you please) at the time of death, and the death of someone who had in the past done Wrong Things but who was not in a position to do them any longer.</p>
<p>OBL was an actively part of the Al&#8217;Q leadership; killing him may (may!) have reduced the amount of terrorist activity perpetrated by Al&#8217;Q and saved lives.  Thatcher was a senile old lady, she no longer had any power to do anything of import &#8211; although her legacy lives on in British politics and her ideas continue to influence today&#8217;s leaders her death will not bring that to a stop.</p>
<p>So I think that makes a difference.</p>
<p>However I also don&#8217;t think that there&#8217;s any reason to &#8220;not speak ill of the dead&#8221;.   Nor to &#8220;respect&#8221; people who have no earned my respect.  </p>
<p>Also to the point of the post &#8211; many people are making a huge fuss about &#8220;respect&#8221; and so forth and saying it&#8217;s just *dreadful* that people are dancing on Thatcher&#8217;s grave.  Both sides of the argument are out in force here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: naath</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trust me, there are people dancing in the streets to celebrate the death of Thatcher.

Also, there is more nuanced commentary.  There was more nuanced commentary about Bin Laden too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust me, there are people dancing in the streets to celebrate the death of Thatcher.</p>
<p>Also, there is more nuanced commentary.  There was more nuanced commentary about Bin Laden too.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Alexander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are no pictures in this post. If you can be more specific about what picture you&#039;re having a problem with I can try to investigate it. I&#039;ve neither noticed any problems myself or been alerted to any.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no pictures in this post. If you can be more specific about what picture you&#8217;re having a problem with I can try to investigate it. I&#8217;ve neither noticed any problems myself or been alerted to any.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ducker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Ducker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Left = towards the socialist end of the capitalist/socialist spectrum.
Liberal = towards the libertarian end of the authoritarian/libertarian spectrum.

In the USA, the two are very intertwined.  But elsewhere/elsewhen one can find very authoritarian socialists, for instance.  They would be left-wing without being lefty-liberals.

Many of the left-wing in the UK are reasonably authoritarian.  What&#039;s important to them is that the working classes do well, not freedom of speech (for instance).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left = towards the socialist end of the capitalist/socialist spectrum.<br />
Liberal = towards the libertarian end of the authoritarian/libertarian spectrum.</p>
<p>In the USA, the two are very intertwined.  But elsewhere/elsewhen one can find very authoritarian socialists, for instance.  They would be left-wing without being lefty-liberals.</p>
<p>Many of the left-wing in the UK are reasonably authoritarian.  What&#8217;s important to them is that the working classes do well, not freedom of speech (for instance).</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Graehl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Graehl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: possibly delaying the financial crisis 6 mo: analysis of counterfactual worlds near always comes out the way your ideology would like, doesn&#039;t it? To save time, just skip the &#039;analysis&#039; part - you already have an oracle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: possibly delaying the financial crisis 6 mo: analysis of counterfactual worlds near always comes out the way your ideology would like, doesn&#8217;t it? To save time, just skip the &#8216;analysis&#8217; part &#8211; you already have an oracle.</p>
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		<title>By: im</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[im]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 07:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P{ossible distinguisher point: Don&#039;t revel in the downfall unless you had a part in causing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P{ossible distinguisher point: Don&#8217;t revel in the downfall unless you had a part in causing it.</p>
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